Discussion:
Enterasys and Procera
Dan Newcombe
2013-07-25 13:09:45 UTC
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We are looking to replace our packetshaper, and Procera is leading the
bunch.
It supports a python (and json?) API for control. The reps and
resellers all talk about how it can be made to integrate.

Is anyone else out there using Procera, and have you done any
integration with it an the NAC?

Thanks,
-Dan


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d***@fhsu.edu
2013-07-25 17:58:04 UTC
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In 2008 I bought a PL7600 and upgraded to a PL7720 in 2012, logging to a
PL1200. I'm quite happy with the product and have recommended it to
several of my EDU colleagues.

I unfortunately can't speak to the API or NAC integration -- I don't have
NAC (yet) and haven't had time to tinker beyond that. I do recall seeing
example code from Procera however, and thinking it wouldn't be difficult.

Derek Johnson | Data Communications Coordinator
FORT HAYS STATE UNIVERSITY
415 Lyman Dr. TH 101, Hays, KS 67601
(785) 628 - 5688 | ***@fhsu.edu





From: Dan Newcombe <***@clayton.edu>
To: "Enterasys Customer Mailing List" <***@listserv.unc.edu>
Date: 07/25/2013 08:10 AM
Subject: [enterasys] Enterasys and Procera



We are looking to replace our packetshaper, and Procera is leading the
bunch.
It supports a python (and json?) API for control. The reps and
resellers all talk about how it can be made to integrate.

Is anyone else out there using Procera, and have you done any
integration with it an the NAC?

Thanks,
-Dan



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Hawkins, Michael Stephen
2013-07-25 18:03:13 UTC
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Derek:

I am not familiar with these products. Are they Enterasys?

The Enterasys Netsight NMS suite has NAC built in. In addition, it now has an API built in.

See the web site:

http://www.onefabric.net/connectcentral/resources/html/OF%20Connect%20WebServices.htm<http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eonefabric%2Enet%2Fconnectcentral%2Fresources%2Fhtml%2FOF%2520Connect%2520WebServices%2Ehtm&urlhash=DZwr&_t=tracking_anet>


Hope this helps.

Mike Hawkins
Associate Director of Networking
UNC-Chapel Hill


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Subject: Re: [enterasys] Enterasys and Procera

In 2008 I bought a PL7600 and upgraded to a PL7720 in 2012, logging to a PL1200. I'm quite happy with the product and have recommended it to several of my EDU colleagues.

I unfortunately can't speak to the API or NAC integration -- I don't have NAC (yet) and haven't had time to tinker beyond that. I do recall seeing example code from Procera however, and thinking it wouldn't be difficult.

Derek Johnson | Data Communications Coordinator
FORT HAYS STATE UNIVERSITY
415 Lyman Dr. TH 101, Hays, KS 67601
(785) 628 - 5688 | ***@fhsu.edu<mailto:***@fhsu.edu>





From: Dan Newcombe <***@clayton.edu<mailto:***@clayton.edu>>
To: "Enterasys Customer Mailing List" <***@listserv.unc.edu<mailto:***@listserv.unc.edu>>
Date: 07/25/2013 08:10 AM
Subject: [enterasys] Enterasys and Procera
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We are looking to replace our packetshaper, and Procera is leading the
bunch.
It supports a python (and json?) API for control. The reps and
resellers all talk about how it can be made to integrate.

Is anyone else out there using Procera, and have you done any
integration with it an the NAC?

Thanks,
-Dan


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2013-07-25 18:55:44 UTC
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<font face="Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><div>Mike -</div><div><br></div><div>Those were Procera Networks products numbers (PL = PacketLogic). &nbsp;My NMS license does not include NAC and my demo license expired a long time ago. :) &nbsp;My NAC virtual appliance is rather lonely nowadays...</div><div><br></div><div>Derek Johnson<br>Data Communications Coordinator<br>Fort Hays State University<br>(785) 628 - 5688<br>***@fhsu.edu</div><br><br><font color="#990099">-----"Hawkins, Michael Stephen" &lt;***@email.unc.edu&gt; wrote: -----</font><div style="padding-left:5px;"><div style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left:solid black 2px;">To: "Enterasys Customer Mailing List" &lt;***@listserv.unc.edu&gt;<br>From: "Hawkins, Michael Stephen" &lt;***@email.unc.edu&gt;<br>Date: 07/25/2013 01:03PM<br>Subject: RE: [enterasys] Enterasys and Procera<br><br> <!--Notes ACF <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">--> <!--[if !mso]><style></style><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div class="WordSection1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d">Derek:<o:p></o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d">I am not familiar with these products.&nbsp; Are they Enterasys?<o:p></o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d">The Enterasys Netsight NMS suite has NAC built in.&nbsp; In addition, it now has an API built in.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d">See the web site:<o:p></o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eonefabric%2Enet%2Fconnectcentral%2Fresources%2Fhtml%2FOF%2520Connect%2520WebServices%2Ehtm&amp;urlhash=DZwr&amp;_t=tracking_anet" target="blank">http://www.onefabric.net/connectcentral/resources/html/OF%20Connect%20WebServices.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d">Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d">Mike Hawkins<o:p></o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color
="#1f497d">Associate Director of Networking<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d">UNC-Chapel Hill<o:p></o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Cambria, serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> ***@fhsu.edu [mailto:***@fhsu.edu] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:58 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Enterasys Customer Mailing List<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [enterasys] Enterasys and Procera<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">In 2008 I bought a PL7600 and upgraded to a PL7720 in 2012, logging to a PL1200. &nbsp;I'm quite happy with the product and have recommended it to several of my EDU colleagues.</span> <br> <br> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I unfortunately can't speak to the API or NAC integration -- I don't have NAC (yet) and haven't had time to tinker beyond that. &nbsp;I do recall seeing example code from Procera however, and thinking it wouldn't be difficult.</span> <br> <br> <span style="font-family:&quot;Tw Cen MT Condensed&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Derek Johnson</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> | </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tw Cen MT Condensed&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Data Communications Coordinator<br> </span><span style="font-family:&quot;Tw Cen MT Condensed&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">FORT HAYS STATE UNIVERSITY</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tw Cen MT Condensed&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br> <span style="color:gray">415 Lyman Dr. TH 101, Hays, KS 67601</span></span> <br> <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tw Cen MT Condensed&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:gray">(785) 628 - 5688 | </span><span style
="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tw Cen MT Condensed', sans-serif;"><font color="#ffbf18"><a href="mailto:***@fhsu.edu">***@fhsu.edu</a></font></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br> <br> </span><br> <br> <br> <br> <span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><font color="#5f5f5f">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Dan Newcombe &lt;<a href="mailto:***@clayton.edu">***@clayton.edu</a>&gt;</span> <br> <span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><font color="#5f5f5f">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">"Enterasys Customer Mailing List" &lt;<a href="mailto:***@listserv.unc.edu">***@listserv.unc.edu</a>&gt;</span> <br> <span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><font color="#5f5f5f">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">07/25/2013 08:10 AM</span> <br> <span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><font color="#5f5f5f">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font></span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">[enterasys] Enterasys and Procera</span> <o:p></o:p></p> <div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"> <hr size="3" width="100%" noshade="" style="" align="center"> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br> <br> <br> <tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt">We are looking to replace our packetshaper, and Procera is leading the </span></tt><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><br> <tt>bunch.</tt><br> <tt>It supports a python (and json?) API for control. &nbsp; The reps and </tt><br> <tt>resellers all talk about how it can be made to integrate.</tt><br> <br> <tt>Is anyone else out there using Procera, and have you done any </tt><br> <tt>integration with it an the NAC?</tt><br> <br> <tt>Thanks,</tt><br> <tt>&nbsp; &nbsp; -Dan</tt><br></span></p></div> </div></div><div></div></font>

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Summers, William
2013-07-25 20:42:03 UTC
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We retired our shaper and purchased Palo Alto devices instead. While these aren't dedicated shapers, since PANOS 4.1 they have all the knobs and integrate with NAC.


To quote from the tech note (which you need a support contract to get).


PAN-OS uses Hierarchical Fair Service Curve (HFSC) algorithm for scheduling. The same algorithm is used in most Linux implementations and now in FreeBSD. In simple terms, HFSC provides ability to filter traffic to prioritized queues and limit the associated queue sizes.

This with inspection and other bits gives us what we need.
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Jolyon Ansuz
2013-07-29 00:32:04 UTC
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Hi Dan,

We use Procera at The University of New England and have done some cool things with it. We really, really like it. We run a pair in HA(?) and appreciate the simplicity of managing them and their ability.

Sincerely,

Jolyon Ansuz

Senior Network and Communications Administrator
Communications Infrastructure
Information Technology
University of New England
Armidale NSW 2351

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Newcombe [mailto:***@clayton.edu]
Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013 23:10
To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List
Subject: [enterasys] Enterasys and Procera

We are looking to replace our packetshaper, and Procera is leading the bunch.
It supports a python (and json?) API for control. The reps and
resellers all talk about how it can be made to integrate.

Is anyone else out there using Procera, and have you done any integration with it an the NAC?

Thanks,
-Dan


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